I need info about Kwanzaa's founder.

[S. L'Gree]

On the radio this morning, I heard that the founder of Kwanzaa served
jail time for severely torturing two of his female followers.

Who was Ron Karenga?

Glad you asked.

He is a convicted felon - sentenced five years after inventing Kwanzaa
for torturing two black women by whipping them with electrical cords
and beating them with a karate baton after stripping them naked. He
placed in the mouth of one of the victims a hot soldering iron, also
scarring her face with the device. He put one of her big toes in a
vise, and detergent and running water in both of their mouths.

But that wasn't the beginning of the bizarre and violent behavior of
Karenga, the patron saint of Kwanzaa - not by a long shot.

Just about the time he was dreaming up this new holiday, he was also
inventing a new political movement on the campus of UCLA. That
movement was called "black cultural nationalism." His group was called
United Slaves. And it was defined mainly by violent confrontations
with the Black Panthers at UCLA. Two of his followers shot dead two
members of the Panthers in 1969.

But no sooner did Karenga get out of prison on the torture charges in
1975 than all was forgotten about his criminal and violent past. He
was proclaimed Saint Karenga. Four years later, he was running the
Black Studies Department at California State University in Long Beach.

How did he get that job in academia with his record?

Glad you asked again.

Paul Mulshine, who has done an admirable job of chronicling Karenga's
history for FrontPagemag.com, has a theory.

Karenga had a jailhouse conversion.

No, he did not become a born-again Christian. He did not renounce
violence. He did not even repudiate his past. But he did become a
Marxist.

And, while becoming a Christian might have disqualified him for a role
in the world of the modern U.S. university, a conversion to Marxism
was perceived as a sign of rehabilitation. The one-time psychopath had
seen the light.

In conclusion, I hope this little cultural and history lesson helps
you see the light - about Kwanzaa. It's being taught to your kids in
your government schools. It's become a commercial bonanza in black
communities through the United States. And, now, even the president of
the United States is praising it as a legitimate holiday.

Good grief. What's wrong with America?

[Bob LeChevalier]

Post by S. L'Gree

On the radio this morning, I heard that the founder of Kwanzaa served
jail time for severely torturing two of his female followers.

Who was Ron Karenga?
Glad you asked.
He is a convicted felon - sentenced five years after inventing Kwanzaa

Who was Jesus Christ.

Glad you asked.

He was a convicted felon, convicted of a capital crime after rioting
in public, overturning the tables of law-abiding merchants in a place
of business (moneychangers in the temple), and setting Himself up as a
king above or apart from the Emperor in power - sentenced to death
between one and three years after starting His ministry and inventing
a new religion.

Many of His immediate followers were similarly convicted of capital
crimes and executed.

Post by S. L'Gree
But that wasn't the beginning of the bizarre and violent behavior of
Karenga, the patron saint of Kwanzaa - not by a long shot.

Evidence that he is the patron saint of anyone?

Post by S. L'Gree
But no sooner did Karenga get out of prison on the torture charges in
1975 than all was forgotten about his criminal and violent past. He
was proclaimed Saint Karenga.

Cite, please.

Post by S. L'Gree
Four years later, he was running the
Black Studies Department at California State University in Long Beach.
How did he get that job in academia with his record?

Our society considers that criminals who have served their sentence
are entitled to a new start, except with respect to owning firearms
and voting in some states.

Beyond that, perhaps he was qualified for the job.

Post by S. L'Gree
No, he did not become a born-again Christian. He did not renounce
violence. He did not even repudiate his past. But he did become a
Marxist.
And, while becoming a Christian might have disqualified him for a role
in the world of the modern U.S. university, a conversion to Marxism
was perceived as a sign of rehabilitation.

Changes in political beliefs are seldom seen by anyone as
"rehabilitation". I posed a much more accurate explanation.

Post by S. L'Gree
The one-time psychopath

Was he diagnosed by a qualified psychiatrist, or are you misusing a
word?

Post by S. L'Gree
In conclusion, I hope this little cultural and history lesson helps
you see the light - about Kwanzaa.

Actually it says nothing about Kwanzaa at all.

Post by S. L'Gree
It's being taught to your kids in
your government schools. It's become a commercial bonanza in black
communities through the United States. And, now, even the president of
the United States is praising it as a legitimate holiday.

It is one, for those who wish to celebrate it.

Post by S. L'Gree
Good grief. What's wrong with America?

What's wrong with you?

[Mark S.]

http://www.officialkwanzaawebsite.org/

Post by Bob LeChevalier

Post by S. L'Gree

On the radio this morning, I heard that the founder of Kwanzaa served
jail time for severely torturing two of his female followers.

Who was Ron Karenga?
Glad you asked.
He is a convicted felon - sentenced five years after inventing Kwanzaa

Who was Jesus Christ.
Glad you asked.
He was a convicted felon, convicted of a capital crime after rioting
in public, overturning the tables of law-abiding merchants in a place
of business (moneychangers in the temple), and setting Himself up as a
king above or apart from the Emperor in power - sentenced to death
between one and three years after starting His ministry and inventing
a new religion.
Many of His immediate followers were similarly convicted of capital
crimes and executed.

Post by S. L'Gree
But that wasn't the beginning of the bizarre and violent behavior of
Karenga, the patron saint of Kwanzaa - not by a long shot.

Evidence that he is the patron saint of anyone?

Post by S. L'Gree
But no sooner did Karenga get out of prison on the torture charges in
1975 than all was forgotten about his criminal and violent past. He
was proclaimed Saint Karenga.

Cite, please.

Post by S. L'Gree
Four years later, he was running the
Black Studies Department at California State University in Long Beach.
How did he get that job in academia with his record?

Our society considers that criminals who have served their sentence
are entitled to a new start, except with respect to owning firearms
and voting in some states.
Beyond that, perhaps he was qualified for the job.

Post by S. L'Gree
No, he did not become a born-again Christian. He did not renounce
violence. He did not even repudiate his past. But he did become a
Marxist.
And, while becoming a Christian might have disqualified him for a role
in the world of the modern U.S. university, a conversion to Marxism
was perceived as a sign of rehabilitation.

Changes in political beliefs are seldom seen by anyone as
"rehabilitation". I posed a much more accurate explanation.

Post by S. L'Gree
The one-time psychopath

Was he diagnosed by a qualified psychiatrist, or are you misusing a
word?

Post by S. L'Gree
In conclusion, I hope this little cultural and history lesson helps
you see the light - about Kwanzaa.

Actually it says nothing about Kwanzaa at all.

Post by S. L'Gree
It's being taught to your kids in
your government schools. It's become a commercial bonanza in black
communities through the United States. And, now, even the president of
the United States is praising it as a legitimate holiday.

It is one, for those who wish to celebrate it.

Post by S. L'Gree
Good grief. What's wrong with America?

What's wrong with you?
--
Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group
(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org