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Artillery! - "Who did I kill?"
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brasspounder
2005-01-02 19:23:50 UTC
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Also have a real doctor check ya out, and not some military one..
Doctors in uniform have to have the same qualifications as civilian ones,
But can they be sued for malpractice? Huh?

On paper they're supposed to meet high standards, but when pressed for
medical personnel the Armed Forces will eagerly take the dregs from medical
schools, that is, the dunces who graduate at the bottom of their classes and
are essentially handed diplomas just to be rid of them. After a string of
malpractice suits and a revoked licence to practice, these "doctors" soon
turn up in one of two places:

1) Inner cities, "treating" the poor in "free clinics"

2) The U.S. Armed Forces, where they can maim with impunity.

Yeah, I know, you'll cover for ANYONE in uniform, even if he is a failed
butcher's apprentice who calls himself a "surgeon." Take it from someone
whose family members have suffered at the hands of these quacks.

GFY
brasspounder
2005-01-02 23:09:44 UTC
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Post by brasspounder
But can they be sued for malpractice? Huh?
No. And that's the reason many very good physicians stay in military
practice,
Because they know if and when they fuck up, they can't be touched.
For the record, while growing up, my mother was Medical Service Corps as
a reservist.
Small wonder you cover for quacks in uniform.
James H. Hood
2005-01-04 02:24:34 UTC
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Post by brasspounder
But can they be sued for malpractice? Huh?
No. And that's the reason many very good physicians stay in military
practice,
Because they know if and when they fuck up, they can't be touched.
Wrong. The military doctors also face license revocation, and imprisonment
if the circumstances warrant.....just like their civilian counterparts.
Abrigon Gusiq
2005-01-08 02:31:25 UTC
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But, the Army is so short of doctors, do you think they will really
bring him/her up on charges?

Officers ya know stick together.

Mike
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Post by brasspounder
But can they be sued for malpractice? Huh?
No. And that's the reason many very good physicians stay in military
practice,
Because they know if and when they fuck up, they can't be touched.
Wrong. The military doctors also face license revocation, and imprisonment
if the circumstances warrant.....just like their civilian counterparts.
Jay T.Beatty
2005-01-08 15:09:34 UTC
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Post by Abrigon Gusiq
But, the Army is so short of doctors, do you think they will really
bring him/her up on charges?
Yep.
Post by Abrigon Gusiq
Officers ya know stick together.
It doesn't matter. My wife works for the lawyer that covers the hospital
here on Riley (civilian lawyer, under contract through JAG or something like
that) and he assures me that charges will be brought up.
James H. Hood
2005-01-08 08:05:08 UTC
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Post by Abrigon Gusiq
But, the Army is so short of doctors, do you think they will really
bring him/her up on charges?
They were short on them when they sent Jeffery McDonald to jail for life,
now didn't they?

James H. Hood
2005-01-04 02:20:16 UTC
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Post by brasspounder
Also have a real doctor check ya out, and not some military one..
Doctors in uniform have to have the same qualifications as civilian ones,
But can they be sued for malpractice? Huh?
Given what I've seen of malpractice suits, you shouldn't be so quick to
praise it.
Post by brasspounder
On paper they're supposed to meet high standards, but when pressed for
medical personnel the Armed Forces will eagerly take the dregs from medical
schools, that is, the dunces who graduate at the bottom of their classes and
are essentially handed diplomas just to be rid of them.
Nevertheless, they met the standards and graduated. Feel free to show us
any proof of accredited US medical schools graduating students "just to get
rid of them".
Post by brasspounder
After a string of
malpractice suits and a revoked licence to practice, these "doctors" soon
1) Inner cities, "treating" the poor in "free clinics"
2) The U.S. Armed Forces, where they can maim with impunity.
Yeah, I know, you'll cover for ANYONE in uniform, even if he is a failed
butcher's apprentice who calls himself a "surgeon." Take it from someone
whose family members have suffered at the hands of these quacks.
Nothing so great as vicarious experience, eh putz? I've been through the
civilian medical system, then the Army one as a dependent, then the Army one
as a soldier, and back to the civilian one now. I'll take the Army one any
day if available.
James H. Hood
2005-01-04 22:37:51 UTC
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Post by brasspounder
Also have a real doctor check ya out, and not some military one..
Doctors in uniform have to have the same qualifications as civilian
ones,
Post by brasspounder
But can they be sued for malpractice? Huh?
Given what I've seen of malpractice suits, you shouldn't be so quick to
praise it.
Post by brasspounder
On paper they're supposed to meet high standards, but when pressed for
medical personnel the Armed Forces will eagerly take the dregs from
medical
Post by brasspounder
schools, that is, the dunces who graduate at the bottom of their
classes
Post by James H. Hood
and
Post by brasspounder
are essentially handed diplomas just to be rid of them.
Nevertheless, they met the standards and graduated.
ROTFL! Yeah, but would you want your wife and kids to be treated by one
of
them, PUTZ?
Would I want them treated by somebody who passed their boards and is
licensed? Definitely, and I'm not worried about their class standing.
Post by James H. Hood
Feel free to show us
any proof of accredited US medical schools graduating students "just to
get rid of them".
OK, putzhead, here's an example of one of your medical school "wonder
boys,"

An anecdote? That's all you have? No wonder your credibility is zero.
"Nevertheless, they met the standards and graduated." By that reasoning,
you wouldn't have hesitated to be treated by Dr. Josef Mengele. ROTFLMAO!
Are you too damned stupid in your rush to Godwinism to distinguish between
healing and torture? Yes, you are.
Patients Pay Price for Medical School Affirmative Action
And of course, we all know that those who graduate at the top of the class
never make mistakes or get their licenses revoked. Try again, putz.
brasspounder
2005-01-05 02:01:06 UTC
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Post by James H. Hood
And of course, we all know that those who graduate at the top of the class
never make mistakes or get their licenses revoked. Try again, putz.
So, in other words, you'd still want to be treated by Dr. Mengele.

Oy Vay!
James H. Hood
2005-01-06 07:13:23 UTC
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Post by James H. Hood
And of course, we all know that those who graduate at the top of the class
never make mistakes or get their licenses revoked. Try again, putz.
So, in other words, you'd still want to be treated by Dr. Mengele.
What an ignorant ass. Good riddance, trolling plonk-bait.
brasspounder
2005-01-06 15:18:55 UTC
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And of course, we all know that those who graduate at the top of the
class
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never make mistakes or get their licenses revoked. Try again, putz.
So, in other words, you'd still want to be treated by Dr. Mengele.
What an ignorant ass. Good riddance, trolling plonk-bait.
Aw, c'mon, it's fun watching you and Howie pat each other's backs. All you
have to say is, "You're an ass," or "You're an idiot," and Howie immediately
comes to Jimmy's defense. Somehow I get the feeling that Howie and Jimmy
are the same sock with different IP's.

It's amazing, though, how these military NG's take on a whole new meaning
once Mike P, Colin, RTO, and a few other bang-bang, shoot-em-up,
Rambo-wannabe "regulars" are filtered out. Oh, sure, they have dot-gov
addys and maybe they're on active duty, but chances are these special-forces
hunkazoids are Walter Mitty clerk-typists on macho e-trips.
brasspounder
2005-01-05 02:04:39 UTC
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Also have a real doctor check ya out, and not some military one..
On paper they're supposed to meet high standards, but when pressed for
medical personnel the Armed Forces will eagerly take the dregs from
medical
Post by brasspounder
schools, that is, the dunces who graduate at the bottom of their
classes
Post by brasspounder
and
Post by brasspounder
are essentially handed diplomas just to be rid of them.
PPOR.
Post by brasspounder
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Nevertheless, they met the standards and graduated.
If you were more familiar with medical education, residency, and board
examination and certification, are considerably more of a predictor than
medical school rank. Residency is much tougher than medical school --
medical schools tend to be very selective on admission, but pass most
students. People do leave residencies or discover they need to change
specialties.
The mechanics of the board process varies with the specialty, but the
procedure is such that even the lowest-ranked people are thoroughly
qualified. It's much more pass-fail than ranked.
Post by brasspounder
ROTFL! Yeah, but would you want your wife and kids to be treated by one
of
them, PUTZ?
Would I want them treated by somebody who passed their boards and is
licensed? Definitely, and I'm not worried about their class standing.
Minor nit -- a military physician can be fully board certified, but
doesn't need a license as long as their practice is limited to Federal
facilities. Licenses are issued at the State level.
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Feel free to show us
any proof of accredited US medical schools graduating students "just to
get rid of them".
OK, putzhead, here's an example of one of your medical school "wonder
boys,"
An anecdote? That's all you have? No wonder your credibility is zero.
Now, there are cases where the military system drives out certain top
specialists, although I believe they are rethinking this. For example,
the late Dr. Bruce Butler was well known as the dean of hand surgeons in
the Washington DC area, and indeed one of the best teachers in the
world. As a LTC, he had been chief of the hand surgery service at Walter
Reed. The upper layers wanted to promote him to COL and make him chief
of surgery, but he retired rather than take on much administration
rather than clinical work and teaching.
There's also a group of senior military medical officers that
consciously combine medical and military disciplines, with the extreme
case being Leonard Wood, who held the Medal of Honor, was Army Surgeon
General, and then Army Chief of Staff.
A more recent example might be COL Rhonda Cornum, who currently commands
Landstuhl Medical Center, but also has a decent record of research
publications and is considered a top-grade flight surgeon (and boarded
urologist). People may remember her from 1991, where she volunteered to
go on a CSAR mission (forbidden to women) so the downed crew would have
immediate physician support. Unfortunately, her helo was shot down, and
she had a rough time as a POW. That didn't slow her down on returning to
service.
Yes, but would you want to be treated by Dr. Mengele?

I can imagine the fun the late Lenny Bruce could've had with your apologias
for deadly doctors.
Zippy the Pinhead
2005-01-07 19:50:26 UTC
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On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 11:23:50 -0800, "brasspounder"
... when pressed for
medical personnel the Armed Forces will eagerly take the dregs from medical
schools, that is, the dunces who graduate at the bottom of their classes and
are essentially handed diplomas just to be rid of them.
You're real sure of that, aren't you?
...
Yeah, I know, you'll cover for ANYONE in uniform, even if he is a failed
butcher's apprentice who calls himself a "surgeon." Take it from someone
whose family members have suffered at the hands of these quacks.
Then get thee to the classified ads in the back of any issue of Army
Times and call one of the dozen or so law firms that advertise there
for plaintiffs to sue the government because of medical care.
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