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kerry against INFERIOR weapon systems
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Transition Zone
2004-10-01 11:08:44 UTC
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Sen. Kerry voted against INFERIOR B-1 Bombers, the B-2 Stealth Bomber,
F-14, F-15 and inferior F-16s, AV-8B Harriers, inferior AH-64 Apaches
and M-1 tanks. Kerry opposed the inferior Patriot Missiles, Tomahawks
and inferior Bradley Fighting Vehicles.

Because INFERIOR WEAPONS get OUR soldiers killed.

B-1 bombers ARE INFERIOR. "The B-1 can't drop a full load above
17K feet."

The B-2 IS INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "Three B-2s have been built so far,
two of them with cracked wings and radar-evasion problems." "It can't
fly low, it can't fly high, it can't fly fast and sometimes can barely
fly at all. It is detectable by Soviet fighter-jet radar, satellite
radar and many ground-based systems."
- - http://www-tech.mit.edu/V111/N48/hersch.48o.html

F-14s ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "The F-14 can't carry the load of a
"Regular" [F-18] Hornet much less a "Super" [F-18] Hornet..."
- - http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/specs/ grumman/f-14a.htm

F-15s ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "...current planes like the F-15
can't be refitted with F-22 technology..."
- - www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/congress/ july-dec99/f22_9-20.html

F-16s ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "The F-16 can't fly as slowly as an
A-10, and it carries fewer weapons and radios, so coordinating,
locating and protecting friendly forces is more difficult."
- - http://www.eielson.af.mil/library/news/00nsvs/sept00/000901.html

AV-8Bs ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "The best VSTOL jet in the world,
the Harrier, cannot match the performance or payload of front-line
Navy aircraft such as the F/A-18, F-14, or A-6E. "
- - http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1997/Hancock.htm

AH-64 Apaches ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "Army's Apache Helicopter
Rendered Impotent in Kosovo. " By Dana Priest. Washington Post Staff
Writer.
Wednesday, December 29, 1999; Page A01
- - www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/
WPcap/1999-12/29/014r-122999-idx.html

Patriot Missiles ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH."Patriot missile batteries
just weren't built to travel in the desert sands, one Army unit
discovers."
--http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/World/iraq_gosknotebook030323.html

Aegis Air Defense is INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "Based on an upgrade to
the Standard missiles used by AEGIS cruisers and destroyers, this
system as been trumpeted by conservative advocates as a quick, cheap
solution to both theater and national missile defense. But, here too,
the Welch panel documents, the proposed LEAP interceptor has had four
failures in four intercept attempts. "

M-1 Tanks are INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "Unfortunately, the Abrams' fuel
consumption horribly high, about 5 gallons per mile..."
- - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1043059/posts

Bradley Fighting Vehicles are INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "Bradleys can't
fight guerrillas. Get them home." - -
http://globalspecops.com/leading.html
"We just completed our 50 th successful wrecker mission."
- - www.hood.army.mil/4ID/Iraqi/ desert_news/Ironhorse%20Update-9.pdf

Tomahawks are INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "U.S. Forced To Limit Tomahawks
Saudi Arabia complains about errant cruise missiles". BY JIM WILSON
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/military/2003/4/qatar_report_6/print.phtml

Kerry made the BEST choice. Fight the stupid bush senate.
Syper
2004-10-01 13:14:49 UTC
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Post by Transition Zone
Sen. Kerry voted against INFERIOR B-1 Bombers, the B-2 Stealth Bomber,
F-14, F-15 and inferior F-16s, AV-8B Harriers, inferior AH-64 Apaches
and M-1 tanks. Kerry opposed the inferior Patriot Missiles, Tomahawks
and inferior Bradley Fighting Vehicles.
Because INFERIOR WEAPONS get OUR soldiers killed.
B-1 bombers ARE INFERIOR. "The B-1 can't drop a full load above
17K feet."
The B-2 IS INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "Three B-2s have been built so far,
two of them with cracked wings and radar-evasion problems." "It can't
fly low, it can't fly high, it can't fly fast and sometimes can barely
fly at all. It is detectable by Soviet fighter-jet radar, satellite
radar and many ground-based systems."
- - http://www-tech.mit.edu/V111/N48/hersch.48o.html
F-14s ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "The F-14 can't carry the load of a
"Regular" [F-18] Hornet much less a "Super" [F-18] Hornet..."
- - http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/specs/ grumman/f-14a.htm
F-15s ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "...current planes like the F-15
can't be refitted with F-22 technology..."
- - www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/congress/ july-dec99/f22_9-20.html
F-16s ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "The F-16 can't fly as slowly as an
A-10, and it carries fewer weapons and radios, so coordinating,
locating and protecting friendly forces is more difficult."
- -
http://www.eielson.af.mil/library/news/00nsvs/sept00/000901.html
AV-8Bs ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "The best VSTOL jet in the world,
the Harrier, cannot match the performance or payload of front-line
Navy aircraft such as the F/A-18, F-14, or A-6E. "
- -
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1997/Hancock.ht
m
AH-64 Apaches ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "Army's Apache Helicopter
Rendered Impotent in Kosovo. " By Dana Priest. Washington Post Staff
Writer.
Wednesday, December 29, 1999; Page A01
- - www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/
WPcap/1999-12/29/014r-122999-idx.html
Patriot Missiles ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH."Patriot missile batteries
just weren't built to travel in the desert sands, one Army unit
discovers."
--http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/World/iraq_gosknotebook03032
3.html
Aegis Air Defense is INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "Based on an upgrade to
the Standard missiles used by AEGIS cruisers and destroyers, this
system as been trumpeted by conservative advocates as a quick, cheap
solution to both theater and national missile defense. But, here too,
the Welch panel documents, the proposed LEAP interceptor has had four
failures in four intercept attempts. "
M-1 Tanks are INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "Unfortunately, the Abrams' fuel
consumption horribly high, about 5 gallons per mile..."
- - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1043059/posts
Bradley Fighting Vehicles are INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "Bradleys can't
fight guerrillas. Get them home." - -
http://globalspecops.com/leading.html
"We just completed our 50 th successful wrecker mission."
- - www.hood.army.mil/4ID/Iraqi/ desert_news/Ironhorse%20Update-9.pdf
Tomahawks are INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "U.S. Forced To Limit Tomahawks
Saudi Arabia complains about errant cruise missiles". BY JIM WILSON
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/military/2003/4/qatar_report_6/
print.phtml
Kerry made the BEST choice. Fight the stupid bush senate.
BWAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAA!

You expect us to believe this shit?

NO weapons system is going to be "unflawed" according to you. Even M-16
machine guns jam up from time to time.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

King
W. D. Allen Sr.
2004-10-01 18:02:50 UTC
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You think we should never give a weapon system to our soldiers unless it is
perfect? Unfortunately, our enemies don't always wait for fools like you to
provide that perfect weapon system.

As just one example, the F-14 was designed about thirty years before the
F/A-18. It was designed as an air-to-air interceptor, without air-to-ground
capability. That capability was added in the 1990s to get more mileage out
of an old airplane since too many senators and congressmen hate to provide
any weapon systems for our soldiers to defend us with, much less even an
imperfect one!

But just wait until our enemies have you in their gunsights! Then you will
then be bitching because "someone" hadn't provided weapon systems for your
protection.

"Tis better to remain silent and be suspected a fool than to speak and prove
the suspicion true!"

WDA

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Post by Transition Zone
Sen. Kerry voted against INFERIOR B-1 Bombers, the B-2 Stealth Bomber,
F-14, F-15 and inferior F-16s, AV-8B Harriers, inferior AH-64 Apaches
and M-1 tanks. Kerry opposed the inferior Patriot Missiles, Tomahawks
and inferior Bradley Fighting Vehicles.
Because INFERIOR WEAPONS get OUR soldiers killed.
B-1 bombers ARE INFERIOR. "The B-1 can't drop a full load above
17K feet."
The B-2 IS INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "Three B-2s have been built so far,
two of them with cracked wings and radar-evasion problems." "It can't
fly low, it can't fly high, it can't fly fast and sometimes can barely
fly at all. It is detectable by Soviet fighter-jet radar, satellite
radar and many ground-based systems."
- - http://www-tech.mit.edu/V111/N48/hersch.48o.html
F-14s ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "The F-14 can't carry the load of a
"Regular" [F-18] Hornet much less a "Super" [F-18] Hornet..."
- - http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/specs/ grumman/f-14a.htm
F-15s ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "...current planes like the F-15
can't be refitted with F-22 technology..."
- - www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/congress/ july-dec99/f22_9-20.html
F-16s ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "The F-16 can't fly as slowly as an
A-10, and it carries fewer weapons and radios, so coordinating,
locating and protecting friendly forces is more difficult."
- - http://www.eielson.af.mil/library/news/00nsvs/sept00/000901.html
AV-8Bs ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "The best VSTOL jet in the world,
the Harrier, cannot match the performance or payload of front-line
Navy aircraft such as the F/A-18, F-14, or A-6E. "
- -
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1997/Hancock.htm
AH-64 Apaches ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "Army's Apache Helicopter
Rendered Impotent in Kosovo. " By Dana Priest. Washington Post Staff
Writer.
Wednesday, December 29, 1999; Page A01
- - www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/
WPcap/1999-12/29/014r-122999-idx.html
Patriot Missiles ARE INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH."Patriot missile batteries
just weren't built to travel in the desert sands, one Army unit
discovers."
--http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/World/iraq_gosknotebook030323.html
Aegis Air Defense is INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "Based on an upgrade to
the Standard missiles used by AEGIS cruisers and destroyers, this
system as been trumpeted by conservative advocates as a quick, cheap
solution to both theater and national missile defense. But, here too,
the Welch panel documents, the proposed LEAP interceptor has had four
failures in four intercept attempts. "
M-1 Tanks are INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "Unfortunately, the Abrams' fuel
consumption horribly high, about 5 gallons per mile..."
- - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1043059/posts
Bradley Fighting Vehicles are INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "Bradleys can't
fight guerrillas. Get them home." - -
http://globalspecops.com/leading.html
"We just completed our 50 th successful wrecker mission."
- - www.hood.army.mil/4ID/Iraqi/ desert_news/Ironhorse%20Update-9.pdf
Tomahawks are INFERIOR WEAPONS TECH. "U.S. Forced To Limit Tomahawks
Saudi Arabia complains about errant cruise missiles". BY JIM WILSON
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/military/2003/4/qatar_report_6/print.phtml
Kerry made the BEST choice. Fight the stupid bush senate.
r***@optonline.net
2004-10-01 22:17:06 UTC
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On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:02:50 -0700, "W. D. Allen Sr."
Post by W. D. Allen Sr.
You think we should never give a weapon system to our soldiers unless it is
perfect? Unfortunately, our enemies don't always wait for fools like you to
provide that perfect weapon system.
As just one example, the F-14 was designed about thirty years before the
F/A-18. It was designed as an air-to-air interceptor, without air-to-ground
capability. That capability was added in the 1990s to get more mileage out
of an old airplane since too many senators and congressmen hate to provide
any weapon systems for our soldiers to defend us with, much less even an
imperfect one!
But just wait until our enemies have you in their gunsights! Then you will
then be bitching because "someone" hadn't provided weapon systems for your
protection.
"Tis better to remain silent and be suspected a fool than to speak and prove
the suspicion true!"
WDA
end
Exactly what enemy are we preparing ourselves for, Russia & China are
both far too busy making money to even think about wars. Incidentally
both of our erstwhile foes are now our biggest customers.
The only enemy on the horizon that I can see are the huge deficits the
Republicans have stuck us with and we cant even pay the interest let
alone payback the principal. When I hear the same traitors talk about
national threat I wonder, are we this dumb not to see through this
sham.
Transition Zone
2004-10-01 22:20:40 UTC
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Post by W. D. Allen Sr.
You think we should never give a weapon system to our soldiers unless it is
perfect? Unfortunately, our enemies don't always wait for fools like you to
provide that perfect weapon system.
As just one example, the F-14 was designed about thirty years before the
F/A-18.
Why do rightards like you want to hang on to 30 and 40 year old
equipment, then ??
b***@bulba.com
2004-10-02 17:31:09 UTC
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Pure bullshit.


---
The comical value of sheer, pure absurdity of Mr. Chomsky
describing himself as "The American Dissident" can be
fully appreciated only by a person who lived under under
the Soviet system. It is the claim that is almost as
tragi-farcical as life under the Soviet system itself was.

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